Monday, August 1, 2011

Case Study 1: What’s Negotiable and What’s Not (Part 2)

In last week’s trip to Value City Furniture, we learned that with a little bit of bargaining we could save $100 on a new couch. Now we’ll be taking a look at a similar shopping trip, but with somewhat less successful results.

In preparation for Thanksgiving last year, my fiancé and I decided that the time had come for us to have a real dining room table and chairs…so we followed our typical strategy of going everywhere and anywhere in search of the perfect dining room. We spent a few weeks casually looking online, and one weekend we decided to journey through as many stores as we could.

Our first stop was Bob’s Discount Furniture…we had been there a few times to take advantage of its infamous free candy and ice cream (which we quickly learned was “not for take with”). But this time we were on a specific mission…and sure enough, we fell in love with the first set we saw. It had everything we had been looking for and even included a matching china cabinet…which we hadn’t really thought about, but now seemed like would be a perfect addition to the room.

Of course, I wouldn’t feel comfortable going with this dining room set until we had compared to as many alternatives as possible. So we continued on our planned trip, heading in and out of store after store, essentially comparing everything we saw to the first set. After a long, non-stop weekend, we finally settled on the Bob’s set…there was simply nothing else out there that had the look and combination that we were looking for.

So we headed back to Bob’s ready to buy…but as before, I insisted on attempting to bring the price down at least slightly. I had looked up this particular furniture set online based on the manufacturer info, and Bob’s did seem to have the lowest price by a decent margin. But I had to take my own advice and at least try to bargain a bit. What’s the worst that could happen?

We went back into Bob’s on Monday night and met a nice salesman; we asked a few questions about the warranty, shipping, and dimensions…questions that we mostly knew the answers to but wanted to confirm anyway. Then my fiancé casually went back to the car while I switched into bargain mode. I began by stating the same thing I did at Value City: “I’d really like to buy this set but it’s just a little bit more than my budget.” The salesman began talking about their zero-percent financing plan, which I listened about but wasn’t really interested in. I went into round two: “If this were even just a bit cheaper I think I’d be ready to buy right now.” But he still wasn’t budging…he said very politely that Bob’s didn’t allow for any price changes or negotiation. I had a sneaking suspicion that this might actually be their policy (whereas I’m normally inclined to assume that whatever the salesman tells me is only partially true, if at all). But I asked if I could speak to the manager just to see if maybe he would be willing to lower the price a bit to avoid losing a sale. Again politely, the salesman went to the back to get the manager. He came back a few minutes later and said that the manager couldn’t come out right now, but he confirmed the no-negotiating policy. I said I understood, but I still wanted to speak to the manager in person. He called the manager’s desk, where he clearly got no answer. I then followed him over to that desk, where the manager’s assistant was sitting out front. I asked her to call him, which she did…he said he couldn’t come out right now. I insisted to the assistant that I needed to speak to him or else I’d be walking away without buying a big dining room set; she went to his office for a few minutes and eventually came out with him following behind.

He came up to the counter, and I told him the same story I had told the salesman. In a very stern, focused manner the manager said, “We don’t negotiate prices.” I said, “Ok, I understand that, but would you really want to lose a sale because you wouldn’t lower the price by a little bit?” He repeated the exact same sentence as before. I said, “So you’d rather I not buy this dining room set at all?” He then said something along the lines of, “I have more important things to do and don’t have time for this anymore.” This caught me a bit off guard; I actually had to take a moment to consider if he had just said what I thought he had said. Now I was upset. I began saying how rude and inappropriate it was for him to say that to a customer; he just walked away back into his office. I continued to tell the assistant (with the salesman watching his sale slip away) that this was ridiculous and that I wanted the name and phone number of the main store manager right now. I told her I’d be speaking to his manager first thing in the morning and that it was totally unacceptable that he would treat a customer like this. After a few minutes of this, I told the assistant to tell the manager that if he hoped to avoid my speaking to his boss about this fiasco, he’d better come back out and apologize for his behavior. The manager called the assistant into his office on the phone; after a few minutes, she came back out and said that he heard what I said but he couldn’t come out because he was busy counting the cash receipts for the day. I responded that, had he said that to begin with, I might have been more understanding and just come back the next day to speak to him or another manager…but instead, he had been incredibly rude and risked a big sale. I walked away in what I would honestly describe as a big huff! But I didn’t leave the store…I walked with the salesman back to the dining room set and told him I would still buy this from him…it wasn’t his fault that the manager had treated me this way, and I did actually want this set, even if it meant paying full price. He was very polite and helpful through this whole process, and he apologized multiple times for his manager’s behavior. I told him I appreciate that, but I’d still be speaking to the main manager about the situation.

The next day, as planned, I called and spoke with the main store manager. He said he had actually been told by the manager in the morning that he’d probably be getting a call about this. We discussed the whole situation, and he apologized multiple times and said that, while the no-negotiating policy was indeed Bob’s set-in-stone policy, that didn’t excuse the manager’s behavior. The store manager was polite and said that, as a courtesy, he would give me a credit of $50 which I could use toward this purchase. I said that, ironically, had his manager offered to reduce the price by this small amount, I probably would have just agreed to buy it at that price and we would have never had to go through this whole mess. He apologized again and went over the details of how I could get the credit.

A week later, we received the furniture and the credit…everything was exactly as we had hoped and it looked perfect in our dining room. The extra leaf we had bought proved to be incredibly necessary for our full-table Thanksgiving dinner. Looking back, this was an interesting departure from the Value City situation. But looking at both together has demonstrated a few important notes for future transactions. The most important lesson is probably that, while it never hurts to try to bargain, it’s probably worth researching the store’s policy ahead of time. I had read a few forums online where some posters were noting the Bob’s policy…but some had responded that their experience had been that there are some negotiable items at Bob’s. So I figured I’d give it a shot; clearly, dining room sets are not on the negotiable list.

While I saved $50 on this whole transaction, it may not have been worth all the hassle and stress involved. While I normally don’t mind even the most aggressive negotiating session, this particular incident wasn’t quite as much fun as a typical customer service fiasco tends to be. Especially when I consider my earlier blog post about the “real” cost of saving on a purchase, it becomes clear that certain savings just aren’t worth it. If you’re having to call the main manager to complain about your experience, you’ve probably lessened the enjoyment that you’re supposed to get from the furniture purchase in the first place. Maybe it’s not worth focusing so much on the bottom line…after all, are you really going to even notice or remember that $50 during Thanksgiving dinner?

17 comments:

  1. Our first stop was Bob's Discount Furniture…we had been there a few times to take advantage of its infamous free candy and ice cream (which ... bbobsfurniture.blogspot.com

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  2. How the hell are you even married?

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  3. You sound like a free loading asshole, expecting to get a discount for every little thing if multiple people tell you no, than it's no, dam cry baby have some God dam pride as a man

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  4. You are such a fucking asshole! People like you dont know what is fair!!! Grow some balls and give some to others so they can stay in business you faggot! Enjoy the fucking table you wanker!

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  5. What a sorry excuse for a human being. I came for the info on Bobs and stayed to see how someone raised a full grown adult to be such an incredible piece of shit - it makes my skin crawl to know that people like you don’t only exist but they are proud of who they are

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  6. I agree with the Author, business are out to make as much as possible and a little negotiating never hurts. The manager should have just explained the policy and excused himself because he was tied up with a pressing business matter.

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    1. He did explain it. The guys cheap and rude.

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    2. He did explain it. The guys cheap and rude.

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  7. He should have charged you more for being a cheap skate.

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  8. I habe worked sales for 15 years and one thing i have learned is that everything is negotiable. New stores and car dealers are comming out with this no negotiation polices (whitch make it easier for sales men) but give them huge profits and give the customer the sence of missing out on a deal. So i completely understand.

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  9. Not happy they dont budge every furniture budges even my whole family got bobs to budge and friends maybe cause i brought them all there but every buddy budges their buddy

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  10. Business is business but this is one of the better ones i must say

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  11. Just cause i worked in furniture stores for about 15 years so i know bro

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  12. But bobs is a great company afterall

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